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Marmols in the making?

Lou said recently he was not averse to “bringing up some young kids with good arms and seeing what they can do.”

If Lou wants to make the rounds of the Cubs’ farm teams and bring back quality arms, he should send a bus. It’s early, but right now the Cubs appear to have a slew of young pitchers with dominating stuff.

The Cubs are looking for someone who can do what Marmol used to: put out 7th-inning fires. Marmol’s numbers last year were 11.75 K’s per 9 innings (3rd behind Lidge and Fuentes for NL pitchers with more than 60 innings), an 0.93 WHIP (2nd behind Cory Wade) and 2.78 K’s per BB (36th). The WHIP is misleading, since his BB numbers are relatively high. Where Marmol is really stingy is giving up hits. His 4.1 hits per nine innings led the league. (So did his batting-average-against number, which is closely tied to hits/9.) If you’re looking for another Marmol, find the guy with the highest K/9 and the lowest H/9.

Here is a list of current Cub pitching prospects with 7 or more K’s per 9 innings, ranked according to K/9.

name team draft round/trade innings hits walks strikeouts k/bb h/9 k/9 whip k/9 – h/9
John Gaub Tennessee DeRosa 9.2 6 4 17 4.25 5.87 16.63 1.09 10.76
Ryan Buchter Peoria Matt Avery 13.1 7 8 19 2.38 4.81 13.05 1.15 8.24
Blake Parker Tenn-Iowa 2006 16th 14.1 11 8 20 2.50 7.02 12.77 1.35 5.74
Greg Reinhard Iowa Ryu 22.1 15 6 29 4.83 6.11 11.81 0.95 5.70
Chris Huseby Peoria 2006 11th 12 11 2 15 7.50 8.25 11.25 1.08 3.00
Kevin Hart Iowa Bynum 14.2 20 6 17 2.83 12.68 10.77 1.83 -1.90
Chris Archer Peoria DeRosa 23 10 15 26 1.73 3.91 10.17 1.09 6.26
Marcos Mateo Daytona Coats 9 4 4 10 2.50 4.00 10.00 0.89 6.00
Chris Carpenter Peoria 2008 3rd 30.1 16 16 33 2.06 4.78 9.87 1.06 5.08
Steven Vento Daytona 2007 23rd 14 17 7 15 2.14 10.93 9.64 1.71 -1.29
Al Albuquerque Daytona 2003 nfa 16 12 5 17 3.40 6.75 9.56 1.06 2.81
Jose Ascanio Iowa Ohman 26.2 18 7 26 3.71 6.18 8.93 0.95 2.75
Brian Schlitter Tennessee Eyre 12.1 10 4 12 3.00 7.44 8.93 1.16 1.49
Henry Williamson Daytona Pie 18.2 22 10 18 1.80 10.88 8.90 1.76 -1.98
Jay Jackson Tennessee 2008 9th 27.1 29 11 26 2.36 9.63 8.63 1.48 -1.00
Jeremy Papelbon Tennessee 2006 19th 21 31 7 20 2.86 13.29 8.57 1.81 -4.71
Jeff Beliveau Peoria 2008 18th 16 18 11 15 1.36 10.13 8.44 1.81 -1.69
Josh Whitlock Peoria 2008 26th 16 19 1 15 15.00 10.69 8.44 1.25 -2.25
Vince Perkins Tenn-Iowa free agent 16.1 9 9 15 1.67 5.03 8.39 1.12 3.35
Mitch Atkins Iowa 2004 7th 40 42 13 37 2.85 9.45 8.33 1.38 -1.13
Rafael Dolis Daytona nondrafted fa 25.2 14 16 23 1.44 5.00 8.21 1.19 3.21
Jake Muyco Daytona 2005 8th 19.1 21 8 17 2.13 9.90 8.01 1.52 -1.88
Jeff Stevens Iowa DeRosa 15.2 6 9 13 1.44 3.55 7.70 0.99 4.14
Kevin Kreier Peoria 2006 20th 15.2 15 3 13 4.33 8.88 7.70 1.18 -1.18
Dan McDaniel Daytona 2008 14th 26.2 14 10 22 2.20 4.81 7.56 0.92 2.75
Erik Hamren Peoria 2008 37th 12 8 6 10 1.67 6.00 7.50 1.17 1.50
David Cales Daytona-Tenn 2008 24th 14.3 9 4 11 2.75 5.66 6.92 0.91 1.26

Here is the same list, this time ranked by fewest hits per nine innings.

name team round drafted/who traded for innings hits walks strikeouts k/bb h/9 k/9 whip k/9 – h/9
Jeff Stevens Iowa DeRosa 15.2 6 9 13 1.44 3.55 7.70 0.99 4.14
Chris Archer Peoria DeRosa 23 10 15 26 1.73 3.91 10.17 1.09 6.26
Marcos Mateo Daytona Coats 9 4 4 10 2.50 4.00 10.00 0.89 6.00
Chris Carpenter Peoria 2008 3rd 30.1 16 16 33 2.06 4.78 9.87 1.06 5.08
Ryan Buchter Peoria Matt Avery 13.1 7 8 19 2.38 4.81 13.05 1.15 8.24
Dan McDaniel Daytona 2008 14th 26.2 14 10 22 2.20 4.81 7.56 0.92 2.75
Rafael Dolis Daytona nondrafted fa 25.2 14 16 23 1.44 5.00 8.21 1.19 3.21
Vince Perkins Tenn-Iowa free agent 16.1 9 9 15 1.67 5.03 8.39 1.12 3.35
David Cales Daytona-Tenn 2008 24th 14.3 9 4 11 2.75 5.66 6.92 0.91 1.26
John Gaub Tennessee DeRosa 9.2 6 4 17 4.25 5.87 16.63 1.09 10.76
Erik Hamren Peoria 2008 37th 12 8 6 10 1.67 6.00 7.50 1.17 1.50
Greg Reinhard Iowa Ryu 22.1 15 6 29 4.83 6.11 11.81 0.95 5.70
Jose Ascanio Iowa Ohman 26.2 18 7 26 3.71 6.18 8.93 0.95 2.75
Al Albuquerque Daytona 2003 nfa 16 12 5 17 3.40 6.75 9.56 1.06 2.81
Blake Parker Tenn-Iowa 2006 16th 14.1 11 8 20 2.50 7.02 12.77 1.35 5.74
Brian Schlitter Tennessee Eyre 12.1 10 4 12 3.00 7.44 8.93 1.16 1.49
Chris Huseby Peoria 2006 11th 12 11 2 15 7.50 8.25 11.25 1.08 3.00
Kevin Kreier Peoria 2006 20th 15.2 15 3 13 4.33 8.88 7.70 1.18 -1.18
Mitch Atkins Iowa 2004 7th 40 42 13 37 2.85 9.45 8.33 1.38 -1.13
Jay Jackson Tennessee 2008 9th 27.1 29 11 26 2.36 9.63 8.63 1.48 -1.00
Jake Muyco Daytona 2005 8th 19.1 21 8 17 2.13 9.90 8.01 1.52 -1.88
Jeff Beliveau Peoria 2008 18th 16 18 11 15 1.36 10.13 8.44 1.81 -1.69
Josh Whitlock Peoria 2008 26th 16 19 1 15 15.00 10.69 8.44 1.25 -2.25
Henry Williamson Daytona Pie 18.2 22 10 18 1.80 10.88 8.90 1.76 -1.98
Steven Vento Daytona 2007 23rd 14 17 7 15 2.14 10.93 9.64 1.71 -1.29
Kevin Hart Iowa Bynum 14.2 20 6 17 2.83 12.68 10.77 1.83 -1.90
Jeremy Papelbon Tennessee 2006 19th 21 31 7 20 2.86 13.29 8.57 1.81 -4.71

Here finally is a list that is ordered according to K/9 minus H/9. By combining the two numbers, I tried to identify the pitcher who was most like Marmol!

name team round drafted/who traded for innings hits walks strikeouts k/bb h/9 k/9 whip k/9 – h/9
John Gaub Tennessee DeRosa 9.2 6 4 17 4.25 5.87 16.63 1.09 10.76
Ryan Buchter Peoria Matt Avery 13.1 7 8 19 2.38 4.81 13.05 1.15 8.24
Chris Archer Peoria DeRosa 23 10 15 26 1.73 3.91 10.17 1.09 6.26
Marcos Mateo Daytona Coats 9 4 4 10 2.50 4.00 10.00 0.89 6.00
Blake Parker Tenn-Iowa 2006 16th 14.1 11 8 20 2.50 7.02 12.77 1.35 5.74
Greg Reinhard Iowa Ryu 22.1 15 6 29 4.83 6.11 11.81 0.95 5.70
Chris Carpenter Peoria 2008 3rd 30.1 16 16 33 2.06 4.78 9.87 1.06 5.08
Jeff Stevens Iowa DeRosa 15.2 6 9 13 1.44 3.55 7.70 0.99 4.14
Vince Perkins Tenn-Iowa free agent 16.1 9 9 15 1.67 5.03 8.39 1.12 3.35
Rafael Dolis Daytona nondrafted fa 25.2 14 16 23 1.44 5.00 8.21 1.19 3.21
Chris Huseby Peoria 2006 11th 12 11 2 15 7.50 8.25 11.25 1.08 3.00
Al Albuquerque Daytona 2003 nfa 16 12 5 17 3.40 6.75 9.56 1.06 2.81
Dan McDaniel Daytona 2008 14th 26.2 14 10 22 2.20 4.81 7.56 0.92 2.75
Jose Ascanio Iowa Ohman 26.2 18 7 26 3.71 6.18 8.93 0.95 2.75
Erik Hamren Peoria 2008 37th 12 8 6 10 1.67 6.00 7.50 1.17 1.50
Brian Schlitter Tennessee Eyre 12.1 10 4 12 3.00 7.44 8.93 1.16 1.49
David Cales Daytona-Tenn 2008 24th 14.3 9 4 11 2.75 5.66 6.92 0.91 1.26
Jay Jackson Tennessee 2008 9th 27.1 29 11 26 2.36 9.63 8.63 1.48 -1.00
Mitch Atkins Iowa 2004 7th 40 42 13 37 2.85 9.45 8.33 1.38 -1.13
Kevin Kreier Peoria 2006 20th 15.2 15 3 13 4.33 8.88 7.70 1.18 -1.18
Steven Vento Daytona 2007 23rd 14 17 7 15 2.14 10.93 9.64 1.71 -1.29
Jeff Beliveau Peoria 2008 18th 16 18 11 15 1.36 10.13 8.44 1.81 -1.69
Jake Muyco Daytona 2005 8th 19.1 21 8 17 2.13 9.90 8.01 1.52 -1.88
Kevin Hart Iowa Bynum 14.2 20 6 17 2.83 12.68 10.77 1.83 -1.90
Henry Williamson Daytona Pie 18.2 22 10 18 1.80 10.88 8.90 1.76 -1.98
Josh Whitlock Peoria 2008 26th 16 19 1 15 15.00 10.69 8.44 1.25 -2.25
Jeremy Papelbon Tennessee 2006 19th 21 31 7 20 2.86 13.29 8.57 1.81 -4.71

Interesting, DeRosa-wise, that Gaub and Archer are in the top three, and Stevens is eighth.

Trackbacks & Pingbacks 1

  1. From The Lou Brock Fan Club - Teflon Larry on 02 Jun 2009 at 1:28 pm

    [...] I’ve been doing weekly updates of a pitching-stats table that I first used in a post entitled Marmols in the Making. See under Pitching Prospects at the top right of the home [...]

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